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  1. This particular destruction may not be visible from the park, but that doesn't make it right. All the trees that have been cut down in the park itself is noticable to guests, and has destroyed the atmosphere.
  2. I like the red better. The whole section looks ten times better in the top picture. It's a shame how ugly the park gets as the years go by. You would think they would do things to improve the park, instead of doing things that make it so unpleasant. The original color of the flume blended with the other colors in the area. Now they paint things colors that clash with everything around them and think they look good because they "stand out". Sticking out like a sore thumb does not make something attractive, it makes it ugly. Most rides in the park are giant metal towers, they do not need to be painted loud colors to make them stand out. They should be painted colors that blend with their surroundings. Unfortunately the red color for the flume probably would not work well now because the other elements of the area that it blended with have been destroyed. Perhaps a hunter green to blend with the trees would be better, until they cut the trees down.
  3. ^^^^Exactly. It seems like the park is being run by a couple of teenage boys. They love roller coasters, but do not understand how to run a theme park. They think that just throwing a bunch of roller coasters in a parking lot is going to bring people flocking in to the park to ride them. They do not understand there is more to a park than coasters and coasters alone will not make a park successful. Great Adventure is a regional theme park. There are not enough people in the area that love roller coasters to sustain the park. They have to attract more than just teenage boys. They have to attract families, children, even seniors. Theme parks can do that. They can have thrill rides and also have the things that attract other people like shows, good food, and a pleasant atmosphere. You do not have to destroy the park in order to add thrill rides. Even people who love roller coasters like a park to have a pleasant atmosphere and like those roller coasters to have coherent theming that enhances the whole experience of the park. The idea that coaster enthusiasts do not care about the atmosphere and/or theming is ignorant. I am a coaster enthusiast. I prefer a coaster with a fun atmosphere in addition to a great layout. It takes away from the ride to have a lousy atmosphere, a ride that just runs around itself on concrete. Coasters that run through trees, down hills, and over water are much more fun. Six Flags is engulfed in this ridiculous "coaster war" where they believe having the most coasters is going to be the key to their success. They are wrong. I would much rather go to a park that has 5 great coasters, themed to enhance the park experience and with great atmosphere, than a park that has 15 coasters in the parking lot with superhero names on them. They desperately need a change of management. They also desperately need to get rid of the current park designers. They need people who know something about theme parks. They hire management with business backgrounds that have nothing to do with theme parks and the designers seem to be former boardwalk amusement pier employees.
  4. ^^^^ How do you figure S:UF looks great and GL looks tacky? They are both right next to each other. They are both in the parking lot. They BOTH look tacky. And KK being "right in your face as you pull towards the parking lot" is horrible. Seeing the whole park from the parking lot destroys the whole experience of discovering the adventure as you explore the park. "In your face" is not pleasant. That is why the only people who like Six Flags are coaster enthusiasts. It is a huge turn-off to everyone else. I myself love coasters, but I much prefer a coaster that dives through trees than one that's thrown on a slab of cement or a field of grass. If the park has no room for expansion, where does everyone think they are going to build a hotel? Since Great Adventure is the largest theme park in the country there is no reason it cannot compare to a Busch park or any other park outside Disney and Universal. It is a very sad state when everyone keeps admitting the park has "major issues" and yet claim that "we are very lucky we have what we got". Everyone is so used to Six Flags being crap that they have accepted it as normal. It is not normal and we are not lucky.
  5. Are we really trying to make the argument that trees are bad because they give cover to thieves? How about having security in the park? Oh I forgot, that costs money. If you really think the park is going to spend money that they save on upgrading the park, your sadly mistaken. Where exactly do they plan to plant 25,000 trees to take place of the 18,000 they are cutting down? Why don't they put the solar panels where they plan to put the 25,000 trees? I doubt they plan to do any such thing. Even if they do it would not create another forest.
  6. Someone mentioned in an earlier post that there is unused safari land that is larger than the current parking lot. I assume the current safari ride is not as large as the previous drive through safari, which leaves empty land. I do not know if this is true or not, but if it is they would have other options.
  7. Magic Mountain is another Six Flags park, which pretty much proves my point. Every Six Flags park I have been to has built rides in the parking lot, except New England because their parking lot is across the street. The fact that they did it a long time ago does not mean it was a good idea, and I'm "griping" about it now because we are discussing park expansion now.
  8. ^^^ I could not agree more. The forest is the greatest asset the park has. It was built there for a reason. Six Flags has been very content systematically destroying it since they bought the park. There has to be a place where a solar farm could be built without destroying more forest. They could use the current parking lot. They choose not to because it would be cheaper to plow down the forest than to build the structure necessary to raise the panels above the cars. As always they believe whatever is cheaper is better. I understand it is a business, but cheaper is not always the best for the business. What about the unused safari land? Or nearby farm land no longer used for farming? I am glad people are protesting this stupid decision, however I believe the protests will fall upon deaf ears. Six Flags just does not understand what they are doing. As usual they believe that whatever is the cheapest choice is the best choice. That is how we wound up with roller coasters in the parking lot and the newest "roller coaster" that is nothing more than a cheap carnival ride. The park needs new management. Actually it needs new ownership, but unfortunately that will probably never happen.
  9. Because there are roller coasters in it. You pull into the parking lot and you are in the park. The whole park has just become a parking lot with rides in it. It's tacky, ugly, and destroys any resemblance of theming. When the park was a forest you saw nothing while parking your car except trees. You entered a forest and discovered rides and attractions on your journey. With all the land they have it was never necessary to plow down every tree and build coasters in the parking lot. They just do not understand the difference between a theme park and a carnival. Great Adventure has become nothing more than a large scale carnival.
  10. The topic is Zumanjaro. That is the future ride. We are discussing the addition of Zumanjaro as being what the park is doing wrong. That is not off topic. The idea of a discussion forum is to have a discussion, not just rave about how great the ride is going to be. We are discussing Zumanjaro and the decisions the park is making in order to add it.
  11. They desperately need to reopen that theatre. I only hope they do not leave it to Facebook to determine what kind of entertainment to add. The people who read their Facebook page are the people already coming to the park and not the people they need to attract. They'll add a show geared toward teenagers, it will not attract any new guests, and everyone will say "You should just be happy they added a show". I see it coming.
  12. However you may classify the rides, the simple fact is that Six Flags caters to a limited demographic, and this will never work. The idea that they think the most important thing the park needs right now is another thrill ride is a clear example that they have no idea what they are doing.
  13. I think the problem may be that none of the senior executives at Six Flags have any theme park experience. They try to run the parks the way they ran the businesses they worked for previousely, and it does not work. They need to find people with theme park experience to run the company.
  14. Six Flags has never understood, and apparently still does not, the importance of maintenance and upkeep. They think this is a waste of money they could be spending on a new ride. They do not realize that the crumbling park is turning away business and a new ride does not create new business. Instead of adding a new ride every year, they need to hold off for a while and use the money to fix what they already have.
  15. While I agree that some changes are inevitable at parks, and it was time for RT's removal, I do not agree that everything that has been removed has been done for good reason; such as the Conestoga Wagon, Teepee, trees, etc.. I also fail to see how a 415 drop tower appeals to a "broader demographic". While I'm excited about riding it, I believe a new thrill ride is the last thing the park needs right now. The park is jam packed with thrill rides. In order to really appeal to a broader demographic, they need to spend some money repairing the crumbling infrastructure and adding shows, decent restaurants, and coherent theming. The park pays too much attention to the desires of it's "current visitors". They are already customers. They need to focus on attracting the people who are not current visitors and a drop tower is not going to do that.
  16. I'm a little confused. The article says the man lost "an" arm, and has "a" prosthetic. The policy states that if he has one fully-functioning arm and 2 functioning legs he is able to ride. Does he not have these? Does anyone know exactly what happened? Why were people cheering and booing?
  17. The fact that they think Sky Screamer is a family ride explains a lot.
  18. You would be shocked, and so would the park, at how much business they loose due to all that obnoxious advertising. It probably costs them more in business than they make selling it.
  19. I'm excited about Zumanjaro. The view from up there is going to be spectacular. What troubles me is the direction the park seems to be heading. They seem to be trying the old tricks that failed in the past - add a cheap new thrill ride every year, market the hell out of it, and people will flock to the park in droves. It never works. They do not need to attract thrill-seekers. These are people they already have as loyal customers. The park is cram packed with thrill rides. Adding this ride will not bring anyone to the park that was not already going to come. Thrill-seekers are not the park's problem, adults are. Adults bring children and teens to the park and adults have the money to spend. Adults hate Six Flags because they are tacky, ugly, loud, and have nothing for them to do. The Safari addition to the park was a huge step toward making the park adult-friendly, however it is not enough to make the park attractive to adults. Adults spend most of their time enjoying the atmosphere, watching shows, and dining. The atmosphere at GA is very unpleasant to adults, there are very few shows, and dining consists of restaurant chains that they can go to at home. The park needs theming. It needs to be an atmosphere that makes you forget about the outside world, not constantly reminding you of it. The food needs to fit this atmosphere to enhance the whole experience. I have a funny feeling there is something we have not yet been told. I have a strange feeling Frontier Adventures is being changed to a Safari Village. This would make sense, which makes me think I might be wrong. It would explain replacing the Conestoga Wagon with a Safari station and the African theming of Zumanjaro ( if the entrance is near the Safari ). My only concern with this is that Frontier Adventures and The Golden Kingdom were the only well-themed areas in the park. They are the only areas that did not need retheming. However, the atmosphere of Golden Kingdom has been watered down and Frontier Adventures has been destroyed. On the other hand, they could just be doing the usual dropping of inappropriately-themed rides around the park with no intention of changing any theming. I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. I look forward to riding Zumajaro, however I do not believe they are gaining any advantage by adding it, and I believe they are heading down the same path of destruction they have traveled so many times before.
  20. The topic is Zumanjaro, an African themed ride being built in a park with no African themed section. That is why people are talking about theming. Just because you do not like what they are saying does not mean it is off topic.
  21. A lot of people DO care. It's not just about rides. This is what Six Flags keeps saying they understand, but keep proving they do not. A park has to have more than rides. It has to have dining, shows, and atmosphere. The lack of these things is why Great Adventure is so far behind other parks in attendance even though it is the largest theme park in the country built near the largest city in the country. Adults hate the park because it is a loud, obnoxious, tacky, ugly place with very little for them to do. Until Six Flags starts to care, they will never realize the business they should be doing.
  22. You really think #20 is good for the largest theme park in the country, located in the most densly populated area. Busch Williamsburg does better, and it's located in the middle of nowhere, is much smaller, has very few roller coasters, and has another theme park 60 miles away. There is no excuse for Great adventure being #20, and we should not be happy about it. People need to think about why Busch does so much better. It's appealing to all ages, not just teenagers. It has theming and atmosphere that appeal to everyone. It is not just about roller coasters and thrill rides. When they get a new thrill ride, they theme it to fit the park and make sure it is a quality product, not just some cheap, mass-produced carnival ride like Sky Screamer. Do you really think Golden Kingdom is African? Where will the entrance of the drop tower be located? If it is in Frontier Adventures it should be Western themed, if it is in Golden kingdom it should be Asian themed. Neither of those areas are African themed. It's really not that difficult to theme things properly. Six Flags needs to clean house and get rid of their designers. They apparently have no clue what they are doing.
  23. It would be really stupid, but that's probably what they will do. They seem to love painting things clashing colors. Look at Sky Screamer. Tacky and Six Flags are synonymous. They just don't get atmosphere and theming. I don't get the whole African theme for the ride when there is no African themed area in the park. The safari ride is African themed in the Frontier Adventures section, the rapids ride is African themed on the other side of the park, and now the drop tower is African themed in the Golden Kingdom. What are they thinking?
  24. The tents looked so much better with the arches, and the trees.
  25. I used to love the fall before Fright Fest. The park was a forrest. The weather was crisp and cool, the leaves were changing, and the park was not crowded.
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