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It's Movietown/Old Country for 2017, i am 100% sure of that. It's just the "what" that is coming. But if this is true, that they have started to level the ground on "Chiller"s spot, it's most likely something "big" that would require them to start up work already. Keep an eye out for the Observatory being cleared out. If it does that will be a big "tell" also, from the layout that was shown last year, Train's will be going thru it again.

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I really want an RMC t Rex but I just don't see it happening so fast, second year In a row of roller coasters? It happened in the past but this is the present. Its still too soon to tell but I'm leaning towards the flat ride package that over Texas got or a JL

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^ Maybe they could put them throughout the rest of Old Country? Put a flat ride where the music express was and put another one where the old bumper car building is now. This plus a future new coaster where Chiller was would bring the whole right side of the park back to life.

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Idk where they'd put the flat rides, because I don't think they would waste the chiller spot on some flat rides.

Depends on the size of the flat rides but I think there's plenty of room on the long queue walk over to zumanjaro, plus that would get more people over into that area.

 

I agree with you that it would be a waste of space to put flat rides in the chillers spot. Same for the justice league ride when they already have a building that just needs to be cleared out for it and maybe just move one of those up charge rides

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That's true but then again we have no facts that a coaster will be coming in the coming years. I don't think flays will take that spot but I wouldn't be surprised if they or a JL did

Honestly, I trust Railer. He was right about The Joker, and I think he'll be right about the T-Rex (fingers crossed it'll be named Batman V Superman)

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While Railer did some awesome investigative work last year, the whole 4D thing was the heavy rumor since 2014 (Joker was supposedly for 2015 but Zumanjaro went over budget).His stance for this year is either JL or T-Rex.

 

If the Chiller spot shows markings, my bet is RMC. I doubt they'd waste that big piece of land on a dark ride, and I also don't see two show buildings sotting side by side (the other being TDK). With a perfect vacany in the old simulator building that spot would make little sense.

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My feelings for the T-Rex came last year, the thing that 1st started me in that direction was the Survey Mark's out between the Water Tower, and the Picnic Grove along the Parking Lot Fence. That pointed me in the direction of that area. Then after all the Lakefront Stuff started happening, and the 4-D Survey with the "Funhouse" theme and "Total Mayhem" came along and that was the big news for a bit. But then a few week's after that Survey, the one with with what at the time, i thought was a Premier "mobius", "Batman Street Chase" launcher, that was "stealing" ideas from "Twisted Colussus", with an "in-line" over the other Track while dueling, on roughly about the same spot that Twisted has the Stall. Then instead of the overbanked turns, it had "interlocking dive loop's" that got the direction changes along the course, along with one turn that was overbank's. But then they announced the T-Rex, and it all came together, and i realized it was not Premier at all, but an RMC. But the layout on that Coaster they showed, even though crude (we all saw the T-Rex animation, it was exactly the same) But the layout on that Coaster would fit perfectly, with the Station right about where it was with "Chiller", launching the same way thru the Observatory, then hitting the "overbanked" hard rt turn's, (on an incline) then heading out over about where the Food Stand is next to "Freefall's" old spot, and taking it out into the Wooded area near the Garages behind the backstage road that runs to them. Then it hit "diveloop's" to take another set of rt turns to get it running along the Parking Lot Fence, right about where the Survey Marking's are/were, twisting in and out of each other, before hitting the "in-line" over the other Track, that would then take in and around the Picnic Grove somewhere, before it hit another set either set of either "dive loop's" or overbank's, (i forget the element in this spot) and then heading to about where "Musik Express" was, then the one Track went into the Station, and the other went thru it into the 2nd Launch, to run the course on the other side. There was a sort of small "helix" element that the one Track did before entering the Station, but the exact layout i'm sure will be different, and was not final at all. But overall it looked to be a Steel, launched, version of "Twisted Colussus" that would even be in the same spot's in each Coast's Park, with the "signature" element's welcoming Guest's with a great view of them from the Parking Lot. Now this year i have not been to the Park at all, and prob won't go till' 2017 Passes go on sale, i skipped this season as my Kids really don't want to go anymore. They have been going since they remember, and just got bored with it last year. Were doing day trip's this year to other Park's, and the Beach, etc. So all i really have to go on this year, is all the work that has been going on with the leveling of the Station, and it makes sense since how big it was, it would have to be gutted really bad, to allow a Track to go over it or around it or whatever they come up with, but on a Coaster that really didn't have alot of height, it was just in the way. Speed, twist's, and dueling are what that layout was all about, and that would fit us perfectly and be another totally different experience than anything we have currently. And i heard that the Local does have work coming up at the Park this later this year, and they only do Steel. But that is why i have been saying to keep an eye on the Observatory, if they start clearing it out, or start to remove the addition they added, it may be a sign that Train's will be going thru it again.

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Magic Mountain and SFOG are getting "JL" for 2017. They have only done 2 a year the entire time they have been installing them, doubt that will change all of a sudden this year. I would love to see a few large, or mid-sized flat's go in Old Country/Movietown. A new Enterprise back where one belong's on the Pathway leading to a couple more new flat's to go along with TDK, and "Batman : The Ride", in a new "Gotham City" with another new enclosed Resteraunt/Bar in the old HBO Commisarry (pretty sure that is coming no matter what) instead of everything going into one large Coaster. But i only say or "report" what i think it look's like is coming, i keep what i want, or any opinion out of it and just follow the lead's wherever they take me. But without me actually being in the Park this year to look around for "clues", (and if what i'm hearing is true, they are there now) but it's why i've been pretty quiet this year with thing's. Only thing i heard from Family Friend's is that the Local has work starting at the end of this year. And that's not speculation, if Local 68 is working there, it's most likely a Steel Coaster. They only do Coaster's and maybe large Flat's (not really sure on that one though, have to check the Parachute's Spotlight and see if Local 68 was in on that construction, i don't really see how they wouldn't be, it's Steel) And i don't know what Company, as many Companies have member's in that Union, could be any of them. But either way, getting those Path's back open and drawing Guest's has priority over putting a new Ride in an already "Guest congested" side of the Park. We need balance, and Crowd's dispersed evenly throught the Park to lighten them. It's why they did the Lakefront, and it's why next will be the "Old Country/Movietown". And right now we are the "Star" of the Chain, we outperform MM and are closed a couple Month's of the Year, they are, and will spend $$$ on us. And we are due for something "big" after a small, and mid-sized attraction. And even if you look at everything else that came along with them, from the HH Expansion, to "Macho Nacho", paving the Lot, they have been putting alot into the Park the last few year's. That is going to continue, and the reward they have recieved for it is a 9% gain in Guest's. I'm pretty sure they want to continue that trend, and hitting with something "big" this year would do that. And even the marketing this year with it being "The Year Of The Villian" it does set up next year's marketing of "Batman" (or the JL) striking back. It all just fits together too nicely to be ignored, and over the year's i have learned, that if it look's like it's happening with a ride, it does happen. Unless something comes up last minute and a change has to be made, and that's why all the Launch System problem's Dollywood had just has me wondering if it's affecting any other Launcher's they had planned. I gives me a little doubt about any other Launcher's from RMC happening this year. But either way, whatever it is coming for 2017 it's going on Chiller's spot, that is pretty much a "lock".

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The nostalgia of having another Dual Launcher in that spot, and one that actually work's as planned would blow me away, and alot of other people too. It has the potential to be the best Coaster they ever did if RMC deliver's with the T-Rex. And it would really compliment what we have, by being totally different than any other Coaster, just like "The Joker" did. And that def is a factor on whatever is coming. That is my opinion, i would love that thing if came to be. On that survey response, one of the many from diff e-mail's i did, hopefully i got them thinking by saying after all the money you spent trying to fix "Chiller" to operate as planned, and then just to operate at all with the re-profiling, then to only have remove it a couple year's after. You have a chance to fix all that and finally deliver on that concept. And to have another "racer" type Coaster after we lost "Rolling Thunder", and have been "racing" in the Park since 1979. It is missed by alot of Guest's. I sent that worded different ways, at least a dozen times to try and make it be a reality. But that's just how feel about it after learning the concept existed. At this point i don't have much to know if it is happening or not. I still keep searching for RMC Yard pics, to see if any T-Rex Track is laying around. But the most promising news i've heard is that if they leveled the ground at "Chiller" and Work start's happening, what ever it is, it's big if they are starting already.

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Also RMC announced that the Trex is still in planning phase (I've probably said this before but now again) they said we won't be seeing a Trex anytime soon until they finish its development phase. 2017 is definately not the year for a new huge coaster considering that we just got one in 2016 and one in 2015

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Also RMC announced that the Trex is still in planning phase (I've probably said this before but now again) they said we won't be seeing a Trex anytime soon until they finish its development phase. 2017 is definately not the year for a new huge coaster considering that we just got one in 2016 and one in 2015

I don't think anyone considers El Diablo a new huge coaster though especially since basically every park in the chain has one now.

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So....JL dark ride will be added to our park in 2017 or 2018? I'm so scared about this one.....SFMM and SFOG gets the dark ride before us. Oh my....please SF, announced JL:BFM to add to our park next on next year after SFMM and SFOG gets dark ride too. Please, Railer. I will have a heart attack if JL:BFM won't be announced for next year for our park please? I'm so scared about this. I'm not ready for another coaster next year, please SF, let it be JL dark ride on next year for our park along with SFMM and SFOG, Please?

Do roller coasters scare you or something? Why are you so petrified..

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I'm happy with whatever, as long as it's a good fit for the Park. I could easliy see them though, with what the current pattern has been of first adding what they call an "entry level" Coaster for Kids with "El Diablo". Followed this year by "mid-level" fun with "The Joker", and then they end the pattern with an intense Coaster with the 54in height requirement. Then after adding 3 diff Coaster's with progressive thrill level's, going in the complete opposite direction with "Justice League" in 2018. That is a pattern that makes total sense to me.

 

 

EDIT : I always dig around other Park's site's, and Forum's and Post's, as there are some out there that do occasionally have good info. Not saying this person that posted this is one of them, but i cut this from a post on a SFOG Site, that i found from a google search. It was posted before the news came down that it's the Bumper Cars that are going, and that they are most likely getting a "JL". But there are some rumor's out there now, that do back up my whole "theory" about RMC and Six Flags working "hand in hand" to develop the T-Rex as a cheaper alternative to anything out there now, it would make sense for them to Purchase the first one. This is from the "Coastercrazy" SFOG forum's.

 

I talked with a couple people yesterday who really know the park and the common speculation is that it is either Thunder River or Splashwater Falls that is going, with almost everyone agreeing that it will not be a coaster. As next year is a big anniversary year for the park, it is expected that they will be getting a very big roller coaster and it is necessary to begin work this early for it. What type of coaster? Well, Six Flags is reportedly building the prototype RMC T-Rex at one of their parks next year, and while I don't know that it will happen SFOG seems like a pretty good candidate for the ride.

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I'm happy with whatever, as long as it's a good fit for the Park. I could easliy see them though, with what the current pattern has been of first adding what they call an "entry level" Coaster for Kids with "El Diablo". Followed this year by "mid-level" fun with "The Joker", and then they end the pattern with an intense Coaster with the 54in height requirement. Then after adding 3 diff Coaster's with progressive thrill level's, going in the complete opposite direction with "Justice League" in 2018. That is a pattern that makes total sense to me.

 

 

EDIT : I always dig around other Park's site's, and Forum's and Post's, as there are some out there that do occasionally have good info. Not saying this person that posted this is one of them, but i cut this from a post on a SFOG Site, that i found from a google search. It was posted before the news came down that it's the Bumper Cars that are going, and that they are most likely getting a "JL". But there are some rumor's out there now, that do back up my whole "theory" about RMC and Six Flags working "hand in hand" to develop the T-Rex as a cheaper alternative to anything out there now, it would make sense for them to Purchase the first one. This is from the "Coastercrazy" SFOG forum's.

 

I talked with a couple people yesterday who really know the park and the common speculation is that it is either Thunder River or Splashwater Falls that is going, with almost everyone agreeing that it will not be a coaster. As next year is a big anniversary year for the park, it is expected that they will be getting a very big roller coaster and it is necessary to begin work this early for it. What type of coaster? Well, Six Flags is reportedly building the prototype RMC T-Rex at one of their parks next year, and while I don't know that it will happen SFOG seems like a pretty good candidate for the ride.

Your theory of increasing thrill makes a lot of sense but that means supposedly three coasters straight. That's not likely for a SF park but we never know what the new CEO is up to

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Why is the chiller spot cleared and leveled out soooo early????

 

 

The Building came down right after the Season ended after HITP. The same Demo Company that did the Grandstand, went right into "Chiller" after the Park closed for the year. They did that just for cost, cheaper to have them do the 2 Jobs right after each other, then have them leave the Park, and come back. The telling thing to me is that the ground has been leveled just recently already. And another thing that is very telling to me, is how it seemed the Park didn't want it to get out that it was gone, knowing that it would "fuel" the T-Rex Speculation, after they have been reading me post about for about a year now on Social Media. I know they pay attention to post's, after last year and me posting all over about "Total Mayhem", and then them naming the Terror Trail "Total Mayhem" to try and "swerve" us proved it.

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