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2019 and Beyond Speculation at SFGA

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rj1972    4

That's too bad about the land. It's tough to install a mega-coaster when all you have to work with is the existing footprint. I'm guessing that state regulators would would put Six Flags through the ringer if they attempted to use forest land. 

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Mrpq    32

unless six flags is getting a gaint break, I am not sure why they would want to hold on to land they cant use

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dougdrummer    48
On 9/6/2017 at 9:29 PM, Nitro1118 said:

If I remember reading correctly, CF has seen a down year so far as well. I think the weather has really hurt all regional theme parks this season.

 

As far as how it will effect GAdv's next addition...I am going to assume not too much. Even with attendance down a bit, I believe SF reported a small increase in revenue. SF's capital expenditure, for now, is a fixed number based on their income. GAdv is the chain's biggest money-maker, so we will always be one of the top priorities. That may not necessarily result in a RMC, but it also won't result in just an updated lazy river, either. 

 

Lastly, we have had plenty of family/mid-level additions the last 5 years. Adventure Alley, SORA and Justice League were all amazing additions for people of all age groups. Joker, El Diablo and Zumanjaro, while thrill rides, all have only 48 inch requirements. That was a height range that the park had very little to offer. Cyborg will provide a new, eye-catching flat ride as well.

 

While the overall landscape may dictate that more family rides may still be the best option, you have to consider context. In 12 years we have received 3 coasters; the first was a cloned Wild Mouse, another was a relocated 20 year old standup that is universally hated, and a cloned freespin that is gimmicky to the point it alienates a large sector of riders. In those 12 years, we lost both tracks of a beloved coaster in Chiller, lost GASM, and lost both sides of RT. That means we have less coasters in 2018 than we did in 2006 (or exactly the same if you consider Chiller and RT as one ride).

 

I do think a relatively large scale coaster would make the most sense for the park for the reasons above. Especially if it is placed in Old Country to completely re-integrate that last "dead area" back to life.

But height requirement is not the sole determination of whether a person will ride it or not.  You mentioned that Joker, El Diablo and Zum have only 48" requirement, but neither my wife or I have ridden those three, nor will we ever.  We also won't ride this new Cyborg next year.  My wife used to ride Rolling Thunder but will never ride El Toro.  I rode El Toro once and that was enough for me.  Same with Green Lantern.  The only coasters my wife will ride is Skull, Dark Knight and Harley Quinn.  She won't even ride Runaway Train because it is so rough now.

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Nitro1118    68
1 hour ago, dougdrummer said:

But height requirement is not the sole determination of whether a person will ride it or not.  You mentioned that Joker, El Diablo and Zum have only 48" requirement, but neither my wife or I have ridden those three, nor will we ever.  We also won't ride this new Cyborg next year.  My wife used to ride Rolling Thunder but will never ride El Toro.  I rode El Toro once and that was enough for me.  Same with Green Lantern.  The only coasters my wife will ride is Skull, Dark Knight and Harley Quinn.  She won't even ride Runaway Train because it is so rough now.

As I said, those three are thrill rides. They did fill a need for those kids who are too old for RMT/Skull Mountain but not tall enough for KK or the B&M's.

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Mrpq    32

I hate to say it but unless a new coaster comes to the park I do not see my self going out of my way to get back to the park and I am saying this as a current season pass holder.  I used my 2017 in the later half of 2016 more time that I used in in 2017.

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On 9/7/2017 at 11:51 AM, Matt Kaiser said:

I think the heat was actually worse. I felt like most of the summer was either very hot or thunderstorms, and very little in between.
The heat specifically was a contributing factor for me not going for over a month straight, which I think is my longest "drought" in probably 4 or 5 years, ignoring the off-season.

I totally agree, this was the same for me.  I couldn't visit for weeks on end because I was moving but when a few opportunities popped up it was just too hot to visit.  In all seriousness, this wouldn't have been the case it they had an air conditioned show that we could have escaped into but without being able to get out of the heat for a break it was a no go.  

Not to beat a dead horse but GA needs shows including one at the Showcase Theatre during the summer months.

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Lemur    1
20 hours ago, rj1972 said:

That's too bad about the land. It's tough to install a mega-coaster when all you have to work with is the existing footprint. I'm guessing that state regulators would would put Six Flags through the ringer if they attempted to use forest land. 

Maybe, maybe not.  There was a good bit kicking and screaming a while back about deforesting a tract of land to install a solar farm, which the locals changed their land use ordnance to allow.  The bigger issue would be GA spurring growth on Route 537, which considering they signed on to pay for municipal waterlines along there, I think the locals at least are more amenable.   

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dougdrummer    48
2 hours ago, 29yrswithaGApass said:

I totally agree, this was the same for me.  I couldn't visit for weeks on end because I was moving but when a few opportunities popped up it was just too hot to visit.  In all seriousness, this wouldn't have been the case it they had an air conditioned show that we could have escaped into but without being able to get out of the heat for a break it was a no go.  

Not to beat a dead horse but GA needs shows including one at the Showcase Theatre during the summer months.

agree wholeheartedly

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robertleax    11

I have not even been to the park this year.  Not just we have been busy... (My wife had a stroke in April and my son passed away suddenly later that month and then my daughter went back to college in August) but even when we decided to go, we ended up going to the beach another park.  I do want to try Justice League but with everything else the same and with no shows we just decided not to.

I have a membership for the family and I have gotten a good rate for the past few years, so I don't want to cancel them (since we do make a trip to SFNE or SFA from time to time), but now it just seem feasible now.

I would love a new coaster for 2019, but I prefer more shows and a sit down sports bar restaurant.

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dougdrummer    48
28 minutes ago, robertleax said:

I have not even been to the park this year.  Not just we have been busy... (My wife had a stroke in April and my son passed away suddenly later that month and then my daughter went back to college in August) but even when we decided to go, we ended up going to the beach another park.  I do want to try Justice League but with everything else the same and with no shows we just decided not to.

I have a membership for the family and I have gotten a good rate for the past few years, so I don't want to cancel them (since we do make a trip to SFNE or SFA from time to time), but now it just seem feasible now.

I would love a new coaster for 2019, but I prefer more shows and a sit down sports bar restaurant.

Wow - it's been a real rough year for you - prayers for your family.

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Mrpq    32

dang dude,  sorry to hear all that.  Family takes first spot for sure.  Thoughts and prayers to ever one

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harry2004    0

ok this is my idea what the park can get in 2019

new rides in both metropolis and movietown

starting with metropolis

a zamperla endeavour themed to wonder woman

a chance freestyle themed to kryptonite,

the picnic area will be renamed to metro park

the old enterprise waffle clone be rethemed to ace o clubs something like six flags magic mountain restaurant.

and here my ideas for movietown

a retheme to gotham city

the stunt arena is demolished for a mack rides power splash called the penguins blizzard splash

and the part of the stunt arena is used for a huss troika called nightwing

the freefall spot is used for a zamperla disko called two face

studio 28 arcade and studio restrooms can be demolished for a zamperla hawk called the riddler revenge and the gotham city store is renamed to gotham gear

in front of the old chiller building is a wave swinger called gotham city crime wave

and for the studio commissary the facades will be replaced by the facades from the batman films and snowys ice cream is added behind mamma floras grill with new restrooms added next to snowys ice cream

and this area haves 3 enterances one at the current movietown sign, two at adventure seaport between coldstone and johnny rockets, and three at metropolis so you can get from metropolis to gotham city

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On September 3, 2017 at 10:40 AM, rj1972 said:

I would love to see some shows added to the mix of rides and attractions. I go to WDW twice a year or so with friends or family, but have yet to convince any of them to visit Six Flags for a multitude of reasons, including a lack of shows. Not everyone is a high speed thrill ride fan. I feel that Six Flags is completely overlooking that market segment.

Bravo. What happened over these last ten years? Absolutely no shows at all to speak of short of one small animal show. i get it, budget budget budget. These things do not attract visitors etc etc. however GADV is merely a shell of its former self and seems terribly hollow and one dimensional.

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