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That experiment is a rather vague strawman argument. The guards at Dorney who carry handguns are Act 235 state certified, you know what that means? They get the same training as Pennsy State Troopers do and whould only pull their weapon if a unruly guest was a threat to the lives of other guests, employees, or the guards. They just don't pull out their guns just because someone looks at them funny or whenever they feel like. Only the top ranking guards are even armed (most just have mace) and only respond with their guns against an attcker who is also armed with a deadly weapon.

 

Let's try this experiment, a guest sneaks a knife into GADV and starts stabbing people, the park's guards would be helpless. Only thing they could do is contact police which would give the stabber plenty of time to attack and kill more people, now that would be a stampede. Also the unarmed guards would be at the mercy of this attacker like the guests. Even if a group of unarmed guards rush the attacker he still could kill at least one of the guards before being subdued. To me that is just unacceptable.

 

Let's say a man pulls a knife at Dorney and starts attacking guests. The armed guards can corner the attacker and force him to surrender. If he still tries to lunge at them or other guests the armed guards can neutralize the threat to save their own lives and those of other guests. The media could still blow it out of proportion but it's still better than allowing an attacker to have more time to kill more people. Saving lives is more important than saving an image, which would already be strained by any kind of incident like that regardless.

 

In the real world, I have never been shot at in Dorney by the guards or even had a gun pointed at me or anyone else by them. Also I never have been physically attacked by another guest at Dorney, or Hershey, or WDW, or Universal, or DL, even SFA. However I have been physically attacked several times at GADV over the 24 years I have been going there and is the only park that I had this happen to me, twice in the last six years alone. I am one of those people who feel less safe at GADV and with good reason, I rather have armed guards than be attacked by other unruly guests. Maybe it takes being attacked to fully see my point of view?

 

If guns provide a false sense of security, then metal dectectors are an even greater form of false security since many of you admitted how easily they can be defeated or bypassed. Once in there is nothing to really stop an armed person until the police show up which is time enough to do many nasty things before being stopped. In cases like this time is of the essence.

 

However this whole sidetrack is pointless anyway since NJ would never allow armed guards at GADV since that state is more strict which is about the third time I have stated this. With that I am done with this tangent.

 

I do agree that the park has been too passive but having the guards look like crossing guards and armed with only trash pickers and empty threats put them at a great disadvantage. Joe Gangbanger would see them as a joke, not as a deterrent. However Joe Gangbanger would see an armed guard as a grave deterrent. Also Pennsy people tend not to be so deathly afraid of guns as NJ people tend to be. While GADV guards can't be armed with firearms (probably not even mace with NJ) they should ditch the crossing guard vests and trash pickers to help restore their image. If not alreay they should be given some hand to hand combat training.

 

PS. Dorney also makes use of Allentown police during busier times but I have never seen swat teams, state troopers, or officers armed with rifles.

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Yeah the amount of ads on Screamscape is ridiculous, thankfully there is Ad Blocker.

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Yeah the amount of ads on Screamscape is ridiculous, thankfully there is Ad Blocker.

 

It is getting extreme when random words within the little rumor blurbs are now linked to ads.

 

As you can tell from the lack of ads in our Spotlights and features, I hate ads! I feel it is a distraction that takes away from the content.

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it may just be my computer but i can pull up any spotlight page and its there, its super annoying because if the cursor goes on it it brings up an ad...

 

Can you send us screen shot? We don't have any ads or links to ads on our site. The closest we come to an ad is the link for our book on amazon on our homepage.

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