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This is the place to discuss 2020 news, rumors, and predictions for all Cedar Fair parks.

 

Rules:

1) Feel free to post 2020 park predictions, but please do not post five year or multi-year park plan predictions.

 

Below are two slides that highlight changes to the long-term strategy.  Note that Cedar Fair will now spend money across all parks every year, but it could just be a new show, experience, event, or restaurant instead of a new ride.  Large investments (expensive rollercoasters) will now be spaced out over a longer period of time at parks but will still occur.

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Cedar Fair February 2019 Investor Presentation

 

Parks:

California's Great America:

Canada's Wonderland:

Carowinds:

Cedar Point:

Dorney Park:

Kings Dominion:

Kings Island:

Knott's Berry Farm:

Michigan's Adventure:

Valleyfair:

Worlds of Fun:

 

Water Parks:

Cedar Point Shores:

Knott's Soak City:

Schlitterbahn New Braunfels:

Schlitterbahn Galveston:

 

 

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added 2 Schlitterbahn parks

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It's good to see Cedar Fair "up their game" in that way;although coasters and other thrill rides are the main reason I go to any park,I appreciate other features like shows and special events.

And is that "Forbidden Frontier" anything like what Disney is/was doing?I remember Disney had something called "Treasure Hunt" that was an interactive search around Adventureland,and it featured animatronic displays that were hidden/disguised by themeing.

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Kind of surprised that they haven't rolled Winter Fest out at Dorney yet. With all the parks around them (Hershey, Sesame, Great Adventure) all doing Christmas, it seems strange that they're not. It seems like it could be a great tie-in to all the Christmas events that take place in Bethlehem.

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17 hours ago, GAcoaster said:

Kind of surprised that they haven't rolled Winter Fest out at Dorney yet. With all the parks around them (Hershey, Sesame, Great Adventure) all doing Christmas, it seems strange that they're not. It seems like it could be a great tie-in to all the Christmas events that take place in Bethlehem.

 

+1 to that.

 

Now that I live in Bethlehem, I can fully support that line of thinking. Christmas is insane here and I'm also shocked Dorney doesn't try to capitalize on it. It'd be nice to have another event venue besides Christkindlmarket over by the Sands casino.

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California's Great America: Dropbox slides

Canada's Wonderland: flat ride and water slide

Carowinds: water slides

Cedar Point: old rides from the past return

Dorney Park: GCI 

Kings Dominion: Waterpark additions 

Kings Island: Giga?

Knott's Berry Farm: Flat ride 

Michigan's Adventure: hahaha

Valleyfair: waterpark expansion 

Worlds of Fun: waterslides 

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CA Great America: Water Park

Canada's Wonderland: Frontier Canada experience (like what CP is getting this year)

Carowinds: retrack (not RMC) Hurler, new restaurant/general improvements

Cedar Point: B&M Junior Invert in Planet Snoopy, return of food offerings, season goes to just before Thanksgiving (still no Winterfest)

Dorney Park: GCI replaces Dinosaurs Alive! or Stinger, Winterfest (at least the latter, hopefully)

KD: small Water Park, demo mountain/Volcano

KI: Everyone is saying a Giga, but its a B&M at least

Knott's: flats or Water Park/General Improvements

Michigan's Adventure: Kids Area/Gate Area improvements

Valleyfair: small Water Park, Excalibur removed in off season ('19-'20 or '20-'21)

Worlds of Fun: New Gate/general improvements, prep for next coaster (2021/2022)

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Ideas for those experience things

Knott's-Done

Cedar Point-Done

Canada's Wonderland: Across from Yukon themed to Frontier Canada (mining theme?)

Great America: remove Orbit and Rapids and themed to Australia's Gold Rush (as it's next to Boomarang Bay. CW reskin?)

Carowinds: Rapids spot with Ozark/Smokies theme (even though Blue Ridge Junction is on the other side of the park)

KD: Go-Karts/Dinosaurs Alive! area themed to Jamestown/colonial times

KI: area beyond X-Base, Outpost 5 theme

World's of Fun: There's a lot of space behind Patriot-reuse Orient Express queue for entrance; could be a reskin of CP's

Valleyfair: Replace Rapids/Xcalibur ; Viking Skin of KD's story, water park gains a Nordic theme and name to fit

Michigan's Adventure: Replaces Timbertown Railway (can relocate train behind kiddie coasters); Treasure of Poverty Island (cheap knock off of CP's)

Dorney: Where GCI is not; no idea for theme but would probably be a reskin

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Now that Cedar Fair is working with Feld Entertainment (Monster Jam) in 2019, I am curious if a Cedar Fair park will receive the B&M wing coaster concept that was shown off at IAAPA.  The Grave Digger Freestyle Run is a lower capacity B&M wing coaster that only seats 20 riders per train.

 

https://www.feldentertainment.com/PressRoom/DisplayPressRelease/94602/

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Florida-based Feld Entertainment® is a first-time exhibitor at the IAAPA Convention, as the company looks to expand into the amusement and attractions industry. The astonishing IAAPA booth focuses on two of Feld Entertainment’s largest and most recognizable brands: Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey®, the first live entertainment franchise in American history; and Monster Jam®, the unexpected, unscripted and unforgettable larger-than-life sport. In addition, Feld Entertainment can provide the same amazing services it uses to build its world-class productions in-house to create any attraction, experience or live event possible including concepting, design, fabrication, construction, touring, costume design, live event and live show production, merchandise design and sourcing, and more. 

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Grave Digger Freestyle Run will allow guests to experience backflips, corkscrews, saves and big air moments that the
real Grave Digger drivers experience in their 12,000 lb. Monster Jam trucks during Freestyle competitions.

 

 

 

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If a wooden coaster isn’t added, that is something I would like to see a Dorney since they could get away with a lower capacity ride more than one of the larger parks in the chain.

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That's what I was thinking too. I don't think Dorney needs the picnic area at the front of the park anymore now that they have the new dining area at the back of the park.  It might be a good place for a wing coaster.

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Clermont Steel Fabricators is currently building two Mega Coasters. MCR is brown and is believed to be the Hyper coaster for Hershey Park.  MCT appears to be a Giga coaster and could be for Kings Island.  The current thought is that MCS was for the Hyper coaster at California's Great America and might be postponed for another year.  This would be similar to what happened with the Dive coasters at Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland. Valravn was DMH and Yukon Striker was DMG after being delayed a few years.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Medusa42 said:

Clermont Steel Fabricators is currently building two Mega Coasters. MCR is brown and is believed to be the Hyper coaster for Hershey Park.  MCT appears to be a Giga coaster and could be for Kings Island.  The current thought is that MCS was for the Hyper coaster at California's Great America and might be postponed for another year.  This would be similar to what happened with the Dive coasters at Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland. Valravn was DMH and Yukon Striker was DMG after being delayed a few years.

 

 

The label at 4:19 confirms MCR to be for customer Hershey Park.

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Kings Island:

13 hours ago, Matt Kaiser said:

Seemingly related to stars/constellations 🤔

Indeed

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Image source: https://www.themeparkarchive.com/parks/kings-island/flight-of-fear

 

Cedar Point:

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/cedar-point-gm-teases-new-ride-for-2020-season/95-722fad52-7582-4701-8aeb-f17e57eb4591

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Cedar Point GM teases new ride for 2020 season

He says it wouldn't be a 150th season celebration without a new ride.

 

Author:   Stephanie Metzger, Will Ujek 

Published:  5:37 PM EDT April 17, 2019 

Updated:  5:42 PM EDT April 17, 2019 

 

SANDUSKY, Ohio — Cedar Point fans have been buzzing with anticipation for the park's 150th season celebration next year.

 

Rumors have ranged from new coasters to nostalgic food and characters from the past making a return.

 

Though the park has remained tight-lipped on its plans for the year-long festivities, General Manager and Vice President Jason McClure hinted at one new attraction planned for 2020.

During an interview with WKYC's Will Ujek on Wednesday, McClure stifled rumors of a mega roller coaster, noting that any major ride addition would already be under construction in the park for preparation for next summer.

 

But McClure did reveal that some sort of new ride will be added in time for the 150th season.

 

"It'd be weird to have an anniversary without some kind of ride," he said.

 

The park will also ask visitors for their feedback on the 150th season. This summer, park goers can weigh in on retro items and pieces of nostalgia they'd like to see.

 

Knott's Berry Farm:

http://screamscape.com/html/knott-s_berry_farm.htm

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2020/2021 - New Attraction - (3/3/19) Screamscape sources tell us that some future plans to develop Knott’s Berry Farm into the future are being settled that may see the park expand a little bit more, taking over some of the backstage land. The site of  the later may involve an expansion of Ghost Town into the nearby backstage area that could be ready sometime between late 2020 and 2021. The early rumors suggest the new section would incorporate a new coaster of some kind as well as a new flat ride or two. The coaster side of things is said to still be very much in development with no one design (or designer) in the lead yet for the project, though we did hear an interesting concept for one of the flat rides could be to bring one of those Gerstlauer Sky Roller kind of attractions to the park, possibly even with some kind of loose “homage” to the park’s former XK-1 as part of the themeing.


Again, this is all just talk at this point, so nothing is confirmed. That said… it may be worth keeping an eye open when traveling through Ghost Town over the year for any sign of construction surveying markers, stakes or paint.

 

California's Great America:

It appears the park might get a water park renovation for 2020.

http://coaster-nation.com/californias-great-america-2020-plans-revealed/

 

Kings Dominion:

 

With the above information and the fact that Carowinds and Canada's Wonderland just received major coaster additions in 2019, it appears that one or two of the smaller Cedar Fair parks could get a new coaster in 2020.

 

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The last time Kings Dominion’s waterpark was worked on was 2015.  This was when it was redone to become Soak City.  They’re due for a waterpark expansion.

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EDIT:  This is confusing, but the bill of lading shows these slides are for CGA and the water park will be called Coastal Bay Waterpark

https://panjiva.com/Composite-Designs-And-Technologies/29727326

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Date    2019-06-28
Shipper Name    Composite Designs & Tehcnologies Lt
Shipper Address    VISAYAS AVENUE, AFAB, MARIVELES, BATAAN 2106 PH
Consignee Name    Cedar Fair Lp Dba Dorney Park &
Consignee Address    WILDWATER KINGDOM, 3830 DORNEY PARK BOARD, ALLENTOWN, PA, USA PA 18104
Notify Party Name    California's Great America Waterpar
Notify Party Address    2410 AGNEW RD, SANTA CLARA, CA 95054, CA
Weight    2570
Weight Unit    K
Weight in KG    2570.0
Quantity    8
Quantity Unit    PKG
Country of Origin    Philippines
Details    2,570.0 kg
From port: Manila, Philippines
To port: Port of Oakland, Oakland, California
Place of Receipt    Manila
Foreign Port of Lading    Manila, Philippines
U.S. Port of Unlading    Port of Oakland, Oakland, California
U.S. Destination Port    Port of Oakland, Oakland, California
Commodity    WATERSLIDES FIBERGLASS SECTIONS PROJECT 40364 COASTAL BAY WATERPARK WATERSLIDES FIBERGLASS SECTIONS PROJECT 40364 COASTAL BAY WATERPARK
Container    CAIU4439729    CAIU7442623
Carrier Name    TRANS SERVICE LINE
Vessel Name    HYUNDAI HONGKONG
Voyage Number    116E
Bill of Lading Number    TSVCPHMNL408428
Master Bill of Lading Number    HDMUMLWB0133182
HTS Codes    HTS 9508.90

 

https://www.usaimportdata.com/usa-import-importer-dorney_park.aspx

 

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It looks like Cedar Fair is going to start offering All Season Fast Lane Plus good at all parks. Dorney is selling it for $849. Dorney only went up from $125 to $175. 

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Dorney Park: Seaside Splashworks

https://www.dorneypark.com/explore/seaside-splashworks

 

Michigan’s Adventure: Camp Snoopy

https://www.miadventure.com/explore/camp-snoopy

 

Worlds of Fun: Riptide Raceway

https://www.worldsoffun.com/explore/riptide-raceway

 

Carowinds: Boogie Board Racer & Grand Carnivale

https://www.carowinds.com/explore/2020

 

Canada’s Wonderland: Mountain Bay Cliffs & Beagle Brigade Airfield

https://www.canadaswonderland.com/explore/2020

 

California’s Great America: South Bay Shores

https://www.cagreatamerica.com/explore/south-bay-shores

 

Kings Dominion: Coconut Shores

https://www.kingsdominion.com/explore/coconut-shores

 

Valleyfair: Grand Carnivale

https://www.valleyfair.com/play/events/grand-carnivale

 

Cedar Point: 150th Anniversary Celebration

https://www.cedarpoint.com/play/events/150th-anniversary

 

Knott's Berry Farm: 100th Anniversary Celebration

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, 29yrswithaGApass said:

Seems like a pretty underwhelming mix of additions.

I agree.  We already know Kings Island is going to announce a B&M Giga Coaster tonight.   Schlitterbahn Galveston just added a new slide for 2019, so Cedar Fair might add something to Schlitterbahn New Braunfels.

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