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23 minutes ago, Six Flags FUN! said:

If there was no new cases or deaths in a few months. The parks will likely open in June/July.


Not trying to be mean but do you read your posts and think about them before submitting. You are talking peoples lives and then an amusement park opening. We all hope they open but talking about families and the loss of loved ones stopping so you can ride a coaster is cold. Imagine if someone here lost a friend or family member and they are just looking for relief. This wouldn’t bring it. Just think about others when you comment. I want to go just as much as anyone but we are where we are right now. 

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Many thanks to you and all the healthcare and medical teams getting us through all this.  You guys are the real super heroes.

Dude shut up. Just shut the hell up. You have no idea what is going on, you just make crap up as you go and post comment after comment to hear your self talk. 75% of what you post doesnt even make sen

Hate to go all personal, but considering that several people I know got infected (one of whom recently succumbed to it), the last thing on my mind at this time are theme parks in general, let alone Gr

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3 hours ago, Six Flags FUN! said:

If there was no new cases or deaths in a few months. The parks will likely open in June/July.

 

 Dude shut up. Just shut the hell up. You have no idea what is going on, you just make crap up as you go and post comment after comment to hear your self talk. 75% of what you post doesnt even make sense. I work in healthcare on the frontline, so i think i have a pretty good grasp on things, your posts infuriate me. People are losing their lives left & right and you're all “waaaah, this sucks i want to goto GA, boo hoo”  All you talk about is when are they going to open. Step back and chill. And btw vaccines dont work the way you think they do....get off the GAH and go educate your self. 

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Even if the virus is put under control tomorrow, it will take years for society to recover, and things will not return to how they were before the outbreak. I get it being upset about the park postponing opening, but there are bigger problems to worry about like not contracting COVID19, basic commodity shortages, social breakdowns, economic consequences, ever increasing restrictions on daily and basic living functions, etc. Get some perspective. 

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2 hours ago, fetish911 said:

 

 I work in healthcare on the frontline, so i think i have a pretty good grasp on things


Many thanks to you and all the healthcare and medical teams getting us through all this.  You guys are the real super heroes.

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As a park employee (at another amusement park) I can assure you that this is devastating the industry. Not only in terms of revenue, but operations, management are in an unknown right now and many new improvements and restrictions will be put into place because of this.

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Many thanks to you and all the healthcare and medical teams getting us through all this.  You guys are the real super heroes.

 Thank you Harry. Ive never , in the 22 yrs of doing this, felt so helpless to my patients before? We see the worst case senarios coming into our ER and its hard not let yourself get terrified because you do see that part of it. We KNOW that the majority of the population will be ok & recover just fine should they contract the rona, but its hard not to let yourself get sucked into the hysteria (just turn off the tv, media is the worst). We will all get through this no doubt.... but its going to be interesting to see lasting effects this will have on people, the economy, etc.

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The regional chains are taking on new debt to pay off old debt and renegotiate debt covenants with lenders.  This should stabilize the companies into 2021.


Secured Notes Issued (Debt)

Six Flags: $725 Million at 7.0% interest due 2025 (offer was upsized from $665 Million)

https://investors.sixflags.com/news-and-events/press-releases/2020/04-15-2020-222954522

Cedar Fair: $1 Billion at 5.5% interest due 2025 (offer was upsized from $875 Million)

https://ir.cedarfair.com/news/news-details/2020/Cedar-Fair-Announces-Upsize-and-Pricing-of-10-Billion-of-Senior-Secured-Notes/default.aspx

SeaWorld: $227.5 Million at 8.75% interest due 2025

https://www.seaworldinvestors.com/news-releases/news-release-details/2020/SeaWorld-Entertainment-Inc-Announces-Pricing-of-Senior-Secured-Notes/default.aspx

 

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https://sanduskyregister.com/news/230646/cedar-points-parent-company-argues-its-vital-to-local-economy/

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Cedar Point's parent company argues it's vital to local economy

Apr 21, 2020 6:00 PM

 

SANDUSKY — Local small businesses need Cedar Point to open to recover from the shutdown caused by the coronavirus pandemic, according to the park's parent company Cedar Fair.

 

"We talk a lot about helping small businesses open," said Lee Alexakos, the company's vice president of community relations. "In a lot of our areas, small businesses rely on our parks, and nothing's going to happen until our parks open."

 

Alexakos made the statement during her testimony Tuesday to the Ohio House's Economic Recovery Task Force, which formed to find ways to renew Ohio's economy after COVID-19.

 

She said Cedar Fair's parks drew 23 million people to their surrounding counties, created 25 million jobs and brought in about $400 million of taxes. Its parks also provide business to local contractors and food producers.

 

"These are small local companies that depend on us," Alexakos said.

 

Cedar Fair planned to open Kings Island in April and its flagship park Cedar Point on May 9, but stay-at-home orders and social distancing recommendations forced them to delay the openings.

 

Since its two Ohio parks are seasonal, Alexakos contends they need to open as soon as possible to save as much of its season as possible.

 

"We don't have don't have the luxury of making up that time in November," Alexakos said. "We have one shot, and it's just a few months."

 

The earliest Cedar Fair could open its Ohio parks would be mid-summer, and they would need four to six weeks' notice to get things prepared for when it opens.

 

"We have to hire about 12,000 seasonal employees, license our rides, finish projects and order food," Alexakos said. "So, the more lead time we have, the better."

 

In the meantime, Cedar Fair has prepared for its eventual opening by purchasing thousands of masks, plexiglass partitions and working out the strategies best suited for keeping people safe.

 

"The safety of our guests and employees always comes," Alexakos said. "We know people going to large venues will want to feel safe."

 

Cedar Fair has also joined a task force developed by Gov. Mike DeWine's office for how large venues will operate following the coronavirus. Others on the task force include the Cleveland Indians, Ohio State University and the Cincinnati Reds.

 

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It's encouraging to read that transmission of the virus outdoors apparently is rare. With the exception of indoor venues (dark rides, restaurants, shows), the regional theme parks like Six Flags may be able to open sooner than Disney/Universal which are primarily indoor attraction based. 

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Masks are not a good idea for a park. Most will fly off of people's faces on the coasters and other high speed rides. Also masks inhibit breathing and get hot even in cool weather. When the weather finally does get warm, SF better be ready for more people passing out. If the parks do away with normal quques and only have virtual ququeing requiring a smartphone, I will want a refund for my SP. Smartphones are a safety hazzard on rides and the parks should be discouraging them. Frankly, most of SF's and Disney's plans for post COVID19 are going to be a royal PITA that will make visiting park an even greater hassle than they have become in recrnt years. Seems people only know how to make everything more of a hassle and complicated these days. 

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Screamscape says that the first six SF parks that may reopen are SFOT, SFFT, SFOG, SFStL, SFMex, and Frontier City. I am not surprised that GAdv is not among the first six. 

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I am expecting Great Adventure to be the 2nd to last park in the chain to reopen, with Magic Mountain probably last.

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The parks for the big cities are likely the last to reopen between being hit the hardest and city people tending to be rowdy even in good times. GAdv always had a problem with having more misbehaving guests than other parks, not sure how the park will make them follow even stricter than normal rules. Rule breaking is just so rampant at GAdv. Last time I was at SFMM, they werd really rowdy there too. 

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The Governor of Illinois just released his plan that splits the state into four regions and I don't see any amusement parks or water parks opening in Illinois this year.  No large gatherings of more than 50 people will be allowed until Phase 5 is reached.  Phase 5 of the plan requires a vaccine to be developed, a treatment option to be readily available, or no new cases over a sustained period.  The biggest hotspot in Lake County, IL is in Waukegan directly to the east of Six Flags Great America.

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Six Flags released its reservation page today, with some FAQ that can be found here - https://sixflags.com/reserve

 

USA today also posted an article with some insight - 

 

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When Six Flags reopens post-pandemic, guests will need to book and pay in advance

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After nearly two months of staying home, masking up for grocery-store runs and watching in disbelief as the economy plummeted faster than a roller coaster, it would be nice to take a ride on a real one, wouldn't it? 

Theme parks, many of which have been closed since March, are beginning to map out their reopening strategies. On Monday, Disney's Shanghai resort reopened to a sellout – albeit mandated low-capacity – crowd. A day later, Florida's Universal Orlando announced that its City Walk promenade will reopen Thursday with screening measures in place.

 

And while Six Flags hasn't yet shared any reopening dates in mind for its 26 North American parks, it is requiring visitors to make advanced reservations to limit capacity and allow for social distancing.

 

To that end, it announced its new reservation system Wednesday. 

 

Guests will be able to book a reservation online at sixflags.com/reserve when the first of its parks reveals opening dates. Mark Kupferman, Six Flags' vice president of insights and interactive marketing, says that visitors will need to schedule not only a day, but also a time. “We don’t want everyone to show up at 10 a.m.,” he notes, adding that a glut of people at the front gate would compromise social distancing.

“People used to be able to just buy a ticket and show up. Now it’s going to require a little more advanced planning and effort,” says Kupferman, acknowledging the new normal that the pandemic has created for nearly all aspects of life. “It’s not optimal, but it is absolutely going to be worth it for the guest. It’s about helping people feel good when they come to the parks so they can enjoy their day and not spend it worrying.”

 

Visitors will also need to pre-pay for parking using the new reservation system. By eliminating on-site transactions at the parking lots and ticket booths, Six Flags will be able to reduce up-close interactions between visitors and employees.

 

The chain is still working out the details of additional operational changes it will make to accommodate guests during the pandemic. But as with other parks and attractions, it’s likely to include strategies such as the addition of hand-sanitizing stations and the elimination of indoor theater shows and other presentations where large groups of people would gather.

 

Employees are likely to wipe down rides and other points of contact more frequently, and the parks will almost certainly utilize technology like mobile food ordering to reduce lines and curb the exchange of money and credit cards.

 

Despite all of the extra precautions and measures that parks and visitors will have to take for the foreseeable future, Bill Coan, president and CEO of the attraction consulting agency, ITEC Entertainment, feels confident that people will return to parks.


 

“It’s like ‘Jaws.’ Who is going to go in the water first?" he says. However, once the parks reopen, he believes that the pent-up demand will outstrip the supply.

 

Coan also believes that parks like Six Flags will need to do more than restrict the numbers of guests coming in the front gate and look at capacity management of individual venues situated within, such as restaurants, shops, and even bathrooms throughout the property.

 

“You’ll see that immediately,” he predicts. “Parks will have to make people feel comfortable that they are safe.”

 

As with many industries, theme parks have quickly responded and adapted to the pandemic. Six Flags did that by scaling up its existing parking reservation system to be able to take advance park reservations.

 

“The coronavirus pandemic has caused us to push a lot of technologies we’ve already been working on to the forefront,” Kupferman says.

 

“Over the next few months, we’ll be rolling out several programs. They will result in a better experience for everyone – both now and after the crisis has abated.”

How the reservation system works

Six Flags will have three tiers of guests that will be able to access reservations using its new system. The highest priority will be given to its upper-level Diamond and Diamond Elite members, people who pay monthly fees that give them unlimited visits to the parks and a range of additional, exclusive benefits.

Members at lower category levels and season pass holders will be able to scoop up the next batch of reservations, while single-day visitors will get the remaining ones.

Once guests choose the day and time they want to visit, they will be offered a short video to watch that will outline the parks’ COVID-19 policies and procedures about sanitization and social distancing. 

Visitors will then be asked to affirm that they are not, to the best of their knowledge, sick and understand Six Flags’ health policy.

Wait, how can I reserve tickets when there's no reopening date yet? 

With 26 parks in North America, it’s likely that some will open before others and need to adhere to different state and local guidelines. But once opening dates are announced, Six Flags will make reservations available for the parks that are allowed to open and guests will be able to book reservations through the end of the year.

 

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I know they mean well, but it just sound like a hassle and not very enjoyable, I like freedom at a theme park, and not capacity management on literally everything, let's hope that ends eventually. 

Of course at this point we have nothing open, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much.

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The Current Six Flags reopening status:

 

Six Flags Over Texas- June 19th

Six Flags Fiesta Texas- June 19th

La Ronde- June 19th

Six Flags Mexico- June 19th

Six Flags Over Georgia- June 15th

Six Flags St. Louis- June 26th

 

It’s great to see some major parks reopening soon!

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Today the NJ stay-at-home orders have been lifted and outdoor gatherings of up to 100 people are allowed. This is a great step 👍 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/06/nj-coronavirus-stay-at-home-order-lifted-by-murphy-as-state-reopening-moves-forward.html%3foutputType=amp

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well, usa just reached 3 million cases, i guess sixflagsfun prediction is true

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