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Here is an odd little tidbit that I am not sure they were counting on:   - Jersey Devil will be the park's 6th highest coaster (Kingda Ka, Nitro, El Toro, Green Lantern, Bizarro, and JD)

Forum,   I am catching up on site maps at a very reasonable pace. After being a month behind, I am caught up to February 23rd as of early this morning. The current lineup of site maps goes a

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Okay, Great Adventure might have actually done something pretty genius.

 

When I first saw the siding choice for the maintenance barn in today's update, I was pretty skeptical. I was hoping the park would've done something a bit more rustic looking instead of going for a modern, industrial chrome look. I began looking up images online of the station of Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast at Six Flags Over Texas and how the oxidizing on the station actually looked really cool. Oxidation is the process by which metal rusts due to the presence of water or moisture in the air, which gives some metal a more brown appearance over time as these instances accumulate. I began doing further research and I have come to three conclusions as to what may happen with JDC's storage shed over time. Below is a photo of JDC's storage shed right now for reference.

 

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Possibility 1: LITTLE TO NO CHANGE - it is possible that the park may have ordered oxidation-proof corrugated sheet wall, which would indicate that the metal has been treated to be weather-resistant and avoid rusting. This would hopefully preserve the sleek, chrome look of the shed for a few months or years before the luster of the metal begins to wear off and the shed has a more matte look. The final appearance of the structure would likely resemble that of Green Lantern.

 

Six Flags Great Adventure Roller Coaster Designs

 

Possibility 2: Slight oxidation - If fully weatherproof corrugated sheet wall is not what we are dealing with here (meaning it has either been slightly treated for oxidation or not treated at all), the wall is almost bound to be subject to oxidation, where it will develop a more rusted looking appearance over time as a result of exposure to the elements; specifically, rain and humidity. Thus, it would lose the more chrome and luster appearance it has now upon installation. The appearance of the station would be most comparable to the photo below, though probably not as extreme. I would compare the appearance most to Nitro's station, or, with more oxidation, the station of Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast at Six Flags Over Texas. It could also be compared to what Twisted Timbers' station currently looks like over at Kings Dominion

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Per this graphic, the wall would most likely develop an appearance similar to "Weathered 1 Week" or "Weathered 2 Weeks" in a more extreme case.

 

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Possibility 3: Full oxidation (I am hoping this one happens) - If the sheet wall has not been treated at all and will naturally weather, the building will likely develop a similar appearance to "Weathered" on the graphic above. If this is true, the building will probably look most similar to the original concept art for Twisted Timbers at Kings Dominion. Personally, I think this would look incredible with the ride's color scheme. If I can, I will try to photoshop some concept images later to simulate each scenario. 

Kings Dominion To Re-Open In 2020 For Taste of The Season Holiday Event –  Coaster Nation

Twisted Timbers opens at Virginia's Kings Dominion

 

I think it is also worth noting that the roof of the station and what will likely be the roof of the maintenance shed are also corrugated metal, so depending on how the sheet wall reacts, we could see similar effects on the roofs of the two structures as well. Something is also telling me that we could see this same corrugated sheet wall lining the bottom half of the station, but I think that the park would have done this before installing the stairs and ramps, so I think the bottom half of the station will remain largely unchanged. I would also love it if the park added some extra theming to the shed just so that it blends a bit better with the area; some thematic signs or structures along the visible exterior would be nice, something on the front face of the building would be cool too.

 

Given Great Adventure's history of corrugated sheet wall stations and structures (Green Lantern, Dark Knight, Batman, Nitro, etc.), I think the most likely outcome is either Possibility 1 or Possibility 2. Given that the most recent installation at the park with a fully corrugated sheet wall structure was Green Lantern 11 years ago and it has aged very well, I think it is likely that the sheet wall on JDC's storage shed will present similar effects. Of course, I am rooting for Possibility 3, although I think it is the least likely since it would likely take some time before the full oxidation effect kicks in. And, in all honesty, if the park wanted a weathered look for the structure, I think they would have had the metal pre-treated, sandblasted, and painted to resemble a weathered appearance rather than letting the oxidation process occur naturally. Nonetheless, I encourage you all to let me know what possibility you think is most likely and how you think each would fit in the context of the Jersey Devil's theme.

 

**Just a side note about the theme; it appears the park may be moving in a more modern-industrial direction with the Jersey Devil theme rather than rustic. It seems they have embraced the character of the devil more than the Jersey Devil folklore itself, as indicated by the reuse of the El Diablo statue, parallax head, and the lead cars. Because of this, I think we'll see the park stray away from a rustic and folklore theme in favor of a modern, steel-driven theme. I think any of the three possibilities would fit this thematical direction, but I feel like Possibility 3 would best suit this since it would include more dark, devilish colors like hints of brown, orange, and red. But generally, based off the silvery and sleek architecture of the area, I think that the park will stick with the chrome steel.

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On 3/19/2021 at 4:13 PM, XENITH said:

Okay, Great Adventure might have actually done something pretty genius.

 

When I first saw the siding choice for the maintenance barn in today's update, I was pretty skeptical. I was hoping the park would've done something a bit more rustic looking instead of going for a modern, industrial chrome look. I began looking up images online of the station of Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast at Six Flags Over Texas and how the oxidizing on the station actually looked really cool. Oxidation is the process by which metal rusts due to the presence of water or moisture in the air, which gives some metal a more brown appearance over time as these instances accumulate. I began doing further research and I have come to three conclusions as to what may happen with JDC's storage shed over time. Below is a photo of JDC's storage shed right now for reference.

 

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Possibility 1: LITTLE TO NO CHANGE - it is possible that the park may have ordered oxidation-proof corrugated sheet wall, which would indicate that the metal has been treated to be weather-resistant and avoid rusting. This would hopefully preserve the sleek, chrome look of the shed for a few months or years before the luster of the metal begins to wear off and the shed has a more matte look. The final appearance of the structure would likely resemble that of Green Lantern.

 

Six Flags Great Adventure Roller Coaster Designs

 

Possibility 2: Slight oxidation - If fully weatherproof corrugated sheet wall is not what we are dealing with here (meaning it has either been slightly treated for oxidation or not treated at all), the wall is almost bound to be subject to oxidation, where it will develop a more rusted looking appearance over time as a result of exposure to the elements; specifically, rain and humidity. Thus, it would lose the more chrome and luster appearance it has now upon installation. The appearance of the station would be most comparable to the photo below, though probably not as extreme. I would compare the appearance most to Nitro's station, or, with more oxidation, the station of Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast at Six Flags Over Texas. It could also be compared to what Twisted Timbers' station currently looks like over at Kings Dominion

istockphoto-954130746-612x612.jpg.12031222407dd0cf7cb4f46e3c9c4053.jpg

 

Per this graphic, the wall would most likely develop an appearance similar to "Weathered 1 Week" or "Weathered 2 Weeks" in a more extreme case.

 

a606-weathering-stages_b.thumb.jpg.5d6097cddb90ad14d68f726530cd7fd1.jpg

Possibility 3: Full oxidation (I am hoping this one happens) - If the sheet wall has not been treated at all and will naturally weather, the building will likely develop a similar appearance to "Weathered" on the graphic above. If this is true, the building will probably look most similar to the original concept art for Twisted Timbers at Kings Dominion. Personally, I think this would look incredible with the ride's color scheme. If I can, I will try to photoshop some concept images later to simulate each scenario. 

Kings Dominion To Re-Open In 2020 For Taste of The Season Holiday Event –  Coaster Nation

Twisted Timbers opens at Virginia's Kings Dominion

 

I think it is also worth noting that the roof of the station and what will likely be the roof of the maintenance shed are also corrugated metal, so depending on how the sheet wall reacts, we could see similar effects on the roofs of the two structures as well. Something is also telling me that we could see this same corrugated sheet wall lining the bottom half of the station, but I think that the park would have done this before installing the stairs and ramps, so I think the bottom half of the station will remain largely unchanged. I would also love it if the park added some extra theming to the shed just so that it blends a bit better with the area; some thematic signs or structures along the visible exterior would be nice, something on the front face of the building would be cool too.

 

Given Great Adventure's history of corrugated sheet wall stations and structures (Green Lantern, Dark Knight, Batman, Nitro, etc.), I think the most likely outcome is either Possibility 1 or Possibility 2. Given that the most recent installation at the park with a fully corrugated sheet wall structure was Green Lantern 11 years ago and it has aged very well, I think it is likely that the sheet wall on JDC's storage shed will present similar effects. Of course, I am rooting for Possibility 3, although I think it is the least likely since it would likely take some time before the full oxidation effect kicks in. And, in all honesty, if the park wanted a weathered look for the structure, I think they would have had the metal pre-treated, sandblasted, and painted to resemble a weathered appearance rather than letting the oxidation process occur naturally. Nonetheless, I encourage you all to let me know what possibility you think is most likely and how you think each would fit in the context of the Jersey Devil's theme.

 

**Just a side note about the theme; it appears the park may be moving in a more modern-industrial direction with the Jersey Devil theme rather than rustic. It seems they have embraced the character of the devil more than the Jersey Devil folklore itself, as indicated by the reuse of the El Diablo statue, parallax head, and the lead cars. Because of this, I think we'll see the park stray away from a rustic and folklore theme in favor of a modern, steel-driven theme. I think any of the three possibilities would fit this thematical direction, but I feel like Possibility 3 would best suit this since it would include more dark, devilish colors like hints of brown, orange, and red. But generally, based off the silvery and sleek architecture of the area, I think that the park will stick with the chrome steel.

I may have low expectations, but it will probably be silver metal, reused props and maybe some flame cutouts, lets not forget the really nice landscaping they forget to keep up after it's first year.

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Although the rustic station idea is awesome, I really wish they put an abandoned house themed station or something similar, but obviously that's not what's happening :(

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OK, I missed that. I assume they can only run three at a time though. It's nice to have a spare, but very un-Six Flags to actually pay for a spare train rather than just running with fewer when one needs service. Look at BTR and SUF. 

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This could be the case; I think it is possible for all four trains to run at once since the coaster has 6 block sections, which would allow for 2 unoccupied block zones while the other four are, which is doable. I could see the park rolling with 4 train operations when the coaster first opens, but I could see them sticking to a train rotation where three are on the track most of the time and one is a spare. I'd love to see them run all four at the time, but we'll see how this turns out when the time comes!

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As some of you may have seen, the park provided a photo of the ride operator panel interface for JDC today. Below you can see what I believe will be close to the correct format for the main operator panel, complete with switch keys, stop and start buttons, a screen, and more! I think it is also interesting to note the design as the background of the panel that seems to resemble an eerie, misty forest.

 

A FEW THINGS TO NOTE: THIS PANEL LAYOUT IS NOT CONFIRMED. The panel in the photo was wrapped in plastic, so it was a bit difficult to decipher the different parts of the panel. Some of these parts I am confident are correct while others I am not so sure about; I am confident they are on the panel but the placement in this schematic may not be accurate. PRIVATE INFORMATION WAS NOT SOURCED. This schematic was created based on common knowledge and several reference photos that I have linked below. Not all reference photos are linked, but the main ones I used are. These reference photos are public and can be found on public search engines. Some of the sources down there are with a deeper read too!

 

**NOT AN OFFICIAL SCHEMATIC. RECREATION BY XENITH.WAV C. 2021**

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Some of my references:

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The first of two queue houses for Jersey Devil Coaster has gone vertical! Originally, I thought that this queue structure would resemble the steel canopy structure seen on rides like Nitro and Dark Knight, so I was anticipating that around four concrete forms would be poured for this structure. However, as indicated by the park's most recent update, this queue house will instead be a wooden structure that will likely support a permanent roof rather than an interchangeable canopy.

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I am absolutely thrilled by this decision, as I think the wooden structure will add much more flavor to the ride area compared to the steel canopy structure. This, along with the addition of topsoil and foliage around the ride, will make the initial presentation considerably captivating. For reference, here is a schematic I developed earlier this year detailing the proposed queue layout. Some things have changed since this schematic was released, and I will note those changes in a bit.

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Looking at the engineering side of this first queue house (based on current information), each side is comprised of 5 vertical wooden columns that will eventually support beams for the roof structure. In total, the structure will have about 16 vertical columns. To erect these columns, the column is lowered into a form tube in the ground. Concrete is then poured into the form tube with the base of the column in it. Because the column cannot support itself until the concrete fully settles, braces are used to keep the wooden column in its correct position. Once the concrete is fully settled, the braces may be removed. However, because these beams stand alone, the bracing is often retained until the overall structure is more connected (beams are installed connecting columns and roofing braces are added) to reduce stress on the vertical columns. 

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Photo from Six Flags Great Adventure

 

Looking around the park, I think the structures that will most closely resemble this queue house are Zumanjaro's main queue house, the La Cantina bar adjacent to Macho Nacho in Plaza del Carnival, and the Ale House restaurant on Main Street. I would expect this queue house to somewhat resemble these structures when fully completed (more Ale House than the other two), but most likely not to a tee. This structure will likely draw elements from these other structures, such as the boulder border in Zumanjaro's queue and the TV mount from the La Cantina bar, for example. One of the photos below comes from the firm Sonnenfeld + Trocchia Architects P.A. that has been involved in the construction of several Great Adventure buildings like Superman's station and Green Lantern's maintenance building. They could very well be the firm behind JDC's queue structures! (https://www.sonnenfeldandtrocchia.com/projects/six-flags-great-adventure/)

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Photos from Park Journey

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Photo from Sonnenfeld + Trocchia Architects

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Six Flags Great Adventure (SFGAdv) Discussion Thread - Page 753 - Theme  Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys! - Theme Park Review

Photos from Theme Park Review

 

Referring back to the queue schematic, some of my initial impressions have been proved wrong by the progress on site. Besides what are going to be wooden queue houses instead of steel ones, I was initially expecting the entrance portal to include the entrance, flash pass, and exit chutes like Cyborg and Wonder Woman do. Based on the photo that the park provided, it appears the portal will only include the entrance and flash pass chutes, and the exit will run adjacent to the entrance portal. Regarding the entrance portal itself, I was initially anticipating a portal similar to Cyborg's with a steel structure, box bases, and a very grand appearance. While I think this entrance portal will retain a similar appearance, I do not think it will have Cyborg's steel box bases considering the size of the concrete forms being poured for the portal. That being said, I think this portal will likely be an all-steel structure with bases bolted to the concrete pier caps. I'm not sure what we could see as far as a more detailed appearance, so drop any ideas below about what you think this entrance portal could look like!

 

**Another thing to note about yesterday's update: this coaster will likely have a fully enclosed op booth similar to RailBlazer at CGA. If I'm not mistaken, this will be only the second coaster at GADV without an open air op booth, the other one being Joker. 

 

That essentially wraps up what we know about the queue line so far. Progress is moving along nicely in this area and I can't wait to see how it moves along in the coming weeks!

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On 3/19/2021 at 3:13 PM, XENITH said:

Okay, Great Adventure might have actually done something pretty genius.

 

When I first saw the siding choice for the maintenance barn in today's update, I was pretty skeptical. I was hoping the park would've done something a bit more rustic looking instead of going for a modern, industrial chrome look. I began looking up images online of the station of Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast at Six Flags Over Texas and how the oxidizing on the station actually looked really cool. Oxidation is the process by which metal rusts due to the presence of water or moisture in the air, which gives some metal a more brown appearance over time as these instances accumulate. I began doing further research and I have come to three conclusions as to what may happen with JDC's storage shed over time. Below is a photo of JDC's storage shed right now for reference.

 

Image

 

Possibility 1: LITTLE TO NO CHANGE - it is possible that the park may have ordered oxidation-proof corrugated sheet wall, which would indicate that the metal has been treated to be weather-resistant and avoid rusting. This would hopefully preserve the sleek, chrome look of the shed for a few months or years before the luster of the metal begins to wear off and the shed has a more matte look. The final appearance of the structure would likely resemble that of Green Lantern.

 

Six Flags Great Adventure Roller Coaster Designs

 

Possibility 2: Slight oxidation - If fully weatherproof corrugated sheet wall is not what we are dealing with here (meaning it has either been slightly treated for oxidation or not treated at all), the wall is almost bound to be subject to oxidation, where it will develop a more rusted looking appearance over time as a result of exposure to the elements; specifically, rain and humidity. Thus, it would lose the more chrome and luster appearance it has now upon installation. The appearance of the station would be most comparable to the photo below, though probably not as extreme. I would compare the appearance most to Nitro's station, or, with more oxidation, the station of Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast at Six Flags Over Texas. It could also be compared to what Twisted Timbers' station currently looks like over at Kings Dominion

istockphoto-954130746-612x612.jpg.12031222407dd0cf7cb4f46e3c9c4053.jpg

 

Per this graphic, the wall would most likely develop an appearance similar to "Weathered 1 Week" or "Weathered 2 Weeks" in a more extreme case.

 

a606-weathering-stages_b.thumb.jpg.5d6097cddb90ad14d68f726530cd7fd1.jpg

Possibility 3: Full oxidation (I am hoping this one happens) - If the sheet wall has not been treated at all and will naturally weather, the building will likely develop a similar appearance to "Weathered" on the graphic above. If this is true, the building will probably look most similar to the original concept art for Twisted Timbers at Kings Dominion. Personally, I think this would look incredible with the ride's color scheme. If I can, I will try to photoshop some concept images later to simulate each scenario. 

Kings Dominion To Re-Open In 2020 For Taste of The Season Holiday Event –  Coaster Nation

Twisted Timbers opens at Virginia's Kings Dominion

 

I think it is also worth noting that the roof of the station and what will likely be the roof of the maintenance shed are also corrugated metal, so depending on how the sheet wall reacts, we could see similar effects on the roofs of the two structures as well. Something is also telling me that we could see this same corrugated sheet wall lining the bottom half of the station, but I think that the park would have done this before installing the stairs and ramps, so I think the bottom half of the station will remain largely unchanged. I would also love it if the park added some extra theming to the shed just so that it blends a bit better with the area; some thematic signs or structures along the visible exterior would be nice, something on the front face of the building would be cool too.

 

Given Great Adventure's history of corrugated sheet wall stations and structures (Green Lantern, Dark Knight, Batman, Nitro, etc.), I think the most likely outcome is either Possibility 1 or Possibility 2. Given that the most recent installation at the park with a fully corrugated sheet wall structure was Green Lantern 11 years ago and it has aged very well, I think it is likely that the sheet wall on JDC's storage shed will present similar effects. Of course, I am rooting for Possibility 3, although I think it is the least likely since it would likely take some time before the full oxidation effect kicks in. And, in all honesty, if the park wanted a weathered look for the structure, I think they would have had the metal pre-treated, sandblasted, and painted to resemble a weathered appearance rather than letting the oxidation process occur naturally. Nonetheless, I encourage you all to let me know what possibility you think is most likely and how you think each would fit in the context of the Jersey Devil's theme.

 

**Just a side note about the theme; it appears the park may be moving in a more modern-industrial direction with the Jersey Devil theme rather than rustic. It seems they have embraced the character of the devil more than the Jersey Devil folklore itself, as indicated by the reuse of the El Diablo statue, parallax head, and the lead cars. Because of this, I think we'll see the park stray away from a rustic and folklore theme in favor of a modern, steel-driven theme. I think any of the three possibilities would fit this thematical direction, but I feel like Possibility 3 would best suit this since it would include more dark, devilish colors like hints of brown, orange, and red. But generally, based off the silvery and sleek architecture of the area, I think that the park will stick with the chrome steel.


Might have to set it on fire like the ostrich barn in order to get the right look.

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Alright, let's talk about the queue line again. Why these epiphanies always seem to happen late at night is beyond me, and this post is going to contain a lot of engineering jargon that I will be sure to define as clearly as I can with visuals when possible. This is a long one. 

 

In the initial blueprints for the ride (attached below) two queue houses were outlined. "Queue House 1"  was the first and largest structure in the queue system that spanned just adjacent to the entrance up to around the near wall of the restrooms. "Queue House 2" was the second and smaller structure located adjacent to the valley of the first drop, behind the aforementioned restrooms. Despite this initial plan, I am beginning to believe that Queue House 2 may be different than originally anticipated.

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I had a long conversation with my good buddy @EasternThrillsabout this, and he has been kind enough to provide several photos used later in this post; huge thanks to him for that! I am going to explain what I think will be an altered queue system for JDC through the same chronological thought process as our discussion.

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Photo by @EasternThrills

 

With the photo above, you'll notice a concrete pier toward the edge of the queue house down toward the bottom of the photo. This pier does not appear (no pun intended) to have many anchor bolts, if any at all, so we (Eastern and I) began speculating as to what could occupy this structure. At first, I was confused by this concrete pier as it looks somewhat unlevel with the surrounding structures that seem to be level. This could be intentional, but I am hopeful that this is not an error on behalf of the crew. When using string on construction sites in this nature, it is vital that the string is rendered as straight as possible so that the construction workers are not building to an incorrect line assuming it is straight. This pitched cap could be intentional in that its occupant may need such a pitch to rest on, but we will probably learn more information about this cap in the coming weeks as the timber frame and bracing is visually less congested.

 

What I also began to notice is that this queue house obstructed a vital access route to the proposed location of the second queue house. Since the structure is now in the vertical construction phase, there is no access route for construction vehicles to the area where the second queue house would theoretically be. The former path for Aftermath is too thin and obstructed for construction vehicles to access the site, and routing vehicles around the cutback turnaround would be time consuming and inefficient. At this point, I began to wonder if the location for this second queue house was moved. I also began to recall how the park stated "queue building" in their update this past Friday instead of "queue buildings" or "one of two queue buildings," which further drove my growing belief that a second queue house was out of contention. However, it seemed unusual that this plot of land wouldn't remain empty, as it seems that the location was leveled with subgrade and prepped for some sort of construction. Nonetheless, the site of the proposed second queue is more difficult to access with the first one now in progress and an alternate route that would need to be practically leveled in order to allow for adequate vehicle access. If there are survey stakes back in that plot, I would change my mind; but for now, I think this is all that we have since that sector of the site is fairly remote and obscured from the public eye.

 

Ultimately, I do not think that the lack of a second queue house is a smart decision on the park's behalf. Observing the line for Wonder Woman: Lasso of Truth that seems to overflow onto the main paths in any remote form of large crowds, I was hoping that the park would take note of the insufficient queue management that the one queue house on Wonder Woman provided and improve on it for this project, especially considering that the park has more space to work with regarding a queue system for Jersey Devil Coaster compared to Wonder Woman. 

 

I think there are multiple possibilities for this plot of land given it a second queue house does not come to fruition. One possibility is an observation area, where guests can walk up through the old Aftermath entrance and stand right next to the coaster's first drop for some great photo opportunities. Another possibility is a seating pavilion, where guests enjoying a meal from the new Jersey Devil BBQ could sit right next to the coaster and enjoy their barbecue food. I think the most feasible possibility is that this location ends up becoming an overflow queue without a structure around it; essentially a queue pen without a "queue house." This option makes sense because heavy duty construction vehicles and access routes are not needed to pour this concrete slab, especially since it seems as though the grade below it has already been properly prepared. All that would be needed to accomplish this slab pour is some rebar monuments to mark points of curvature and wooden boards to form the border of the slab. Naturally, this can all be accomplished by hand with a buddy or two to help. This would get the best of both worlds, as the coaster would have an additional queue area while also providing incredible views of the coaster's first drop and raven dive.

 

When preparing a concrete slab like this, it is important to first remove the material in the way to achieve the correct grade needed for the site. These slabs are usually completed as one of the last tasks on a construction site so that construction vehicles can still have access to various sectors of the site and so that the concrete is in good shape by the end of the project. Dirt has to be broken up and softened and then moved into place by tractors with rippers or Gannon boxes attached on their back ends. This properly levels the dirt and sifts through the material to eliminate any discrepancies. Gravel then goes in on top of this grade, which acts as an aggregate base. When mixed with water, this aggregate base, or AB for short, becomes really compact and essentially provides a buffer between the poured concrete and the subgrade if any discrepancies are present as material conditions fluctuate. This aggregate base also increases the distance over which the load is dispersed so that the point loads on the concrete are spread out over a larger area of the subgrade; this way, more of the subgrade can support these point loads. It is important that this aggregate base is installed accurately. If too much base is poured, the concrete will be too thin; if too little is poured, the concrete will be too thick. The concrete can finally be poured when the subgrade is in place, forms have been set, and rebar/wire mesh has been set. When the concrete is being poured, it is important that the paste of the concrete is brought to the top and that the rocks are pushed toward the bottom. However, it is important to retain the rocks in the concrete mixture as they are critical to the strength and abrasion resistance of the slab; think of it as extra reinforcement to the slab. Once the mud is in place, it can be screeded to its final elevation so that finishers can come along and make the slab look more presentable. Once the concrete is screeded and finished, soft cuts can be made into the slab for crack control. Concrete inevitably is going to crack with age and the continuous stress of live loads, so soft cuts that are about 20-25% of the thickness of the slab are made to control these cracks; the goal is that these cracks will form inside of the cuts rather than anywhere else on the slab, preventing cosmetic damage. After this, the concrete can settle and the slab is complete.

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Photo by @EasternThrills

 

Looking at this photo, we can see some drill holes for the tie beams that will eventually connect all of these vertical posts together to form the base for the purlins and rafters that will comprise the roof. Sadly, one of the posts does not have a tie beam drill hole. Moment of silence. If you've made it this far down in the post so far I appreciate that you have taken the time out of your day to read this, it means a lot. Thank you!

 

Eastern then sent me some photos of some shipments the parked received that we were able to dissect in just a few minutes, to the surprise of both of us. This discussion went in so many different directions at a million miles per hour, so I am going to try my best to present our findings in the most organized way possible. 

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Photo by @EasternThrills

 

This is the entire photo, so you can zoom in and out of it at your discretion to view individual parts. In the middle of the photo, you'll notice a stay of what appear to be grey sheets. Initially, I thought this was more queue railing, but considering the thin build of the piece these appear to be a stack of temporary chain link fences for the construction site. I also thought that this may have been danger zone/restricted area fencing, but there is not nearly enough fencing to cover the several danger zones that Jersey Devil Coaster will have and the lengthy ride perimeter. These are most likely temporary fences. 

 

In this photo you will notice several lumber shipments. Just the other day, I was scanning around the Jackson area for potential lumber suppliers as I was seeking further insight as to what the queue structure would look like. It turns out that, despite several suppliers like 84 Lumber nearby, the park outsourced lumber from three different suppliers all based in the Pacific Northwest. Frank Lumber Co., Inc and Disdero Lumber (both labels are in this photo) are based in Oregon, while Canyon (you will see in a later photo) is based in Washington. It appears the park wanted Douglas fir wood precisely for the queue structure, considering that some of these suppliers specialize in Douglas Fir lumber specifically and that these suppliers are based in the northwestern United States, an area with extensive populations of Douglas fir trees. In this picture, you can see both more posts/beams for the queue structure, as well as a massive shipment of 2x4s from Disdero. The sheer magnitude of this shipment, along with the arrival of more posts, is further evidence that this structure will likely resemble the already-existing Ale House structure on Main Street. Note the structural similarities in the vertical members and possible use of 2x4s for the roof joists. 

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I initially thought these black rolls of mesh were wire/rebar mesh for the concrete slabs of the queue system, but looking further it appears that this is black chain link fencing for restricted areas and danger zones. In direct contrast with the chain link fences near the lumber shipments from Frank Lumber Co., Inc and Disdero Lumber, these fences look to be for permanent installation while the other fences appear to be for temporary use only. In this photo you'll also notice the Washington-based Canyon lumber company, which seems to be supplying the vertical posts for this project. Referring back to the first photo of this shipment package, there are some black items under clear plastic wrap between the lumber shipments. These look to be the vertical and horizontal posts for the fence structures that will surround the ride and encompass the many danger zones and low points of the ride. 

 

Looking at the sheer size of the lumber shipments the park received, I started to second-guess myself regarding an additional queue house (no pun intended, I am on an absolute roll right now). At first, it appeared as though these shipments were possible evidence for a second queue house as it seemed the queue structure currently in progress would not require much further material for the timber frame. Analyzing what is left to be erected of this queue building and the architecture of the comparable Ale House, these shipments are likely going to supplement only one queue structure; the posts are likely for tie beams and struts, as all of the vertical structural members seem to be in place. If more shipments arrive at the park, I may change my mind. But for now, this is what we have to work with. At this point, anything is possible. 

 

I'm sure you can tell, it is almost 2AM on a Sunday night and I just sat down and wrote an entire novel about wood in one 45 minute sitting, so I am going to leave this off here for now. Eastern and I left our discussion at this point as I felt the sudden urge to post about all of our findings on the forums, so I think that this is a fitting place to end and leave the remaining unknown variables up to interpretation and the test of time. Again, huge thank you to @EasternThrillsfor making this post possible and providing the visuals to make this explanation much less confusing (hopefully), and for tolerating my nonstop inquiries about this ride. PLEASE, let me know down below if you think a second queue house is still possible and, if not an actual structure, what this second queue area could look like! Let me know if there is anything in this post that is confusing as well, as I am happy to explain anything that may require further clarification (this was a lot for me to write about at once, so this might be a lot for you as well). Anyways, I wish you a late Happy Easter to those who celebrate and I will be sure to keep you all updated as we learn more information about the upcoming developments on the site of this masterpiece roller coaster 🔥

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15 hours ago, EasternThrills said:

Today, I was able to get a photo from the Ferris Wheel of Jersey Devil Coaster’s 1st queue house under construction! 😄

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Looking at some of the photos provided by @EasternThrillsyesterday (such as this one), it appears that the concrete pier near the edge of the queue is NOT permanent. If you look to the left of the brown shed, you will notice a concrete block identical to the one in the queue house. 

 

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Looking at this photo (also courtesy of EasternThrills), you can spot a total of 5 of these concrete blocks scattered around the queue area. Block 1 is in front of the brown shed, Block 2 is inside of the area of the queue building, Block 3 is near the edge of the queue house between Blocks 1 and 2, Block 4 is against the wooden fence just above Block 2, and Block 5 is at the entrance to the restrooms to the right of Block 2. 

 

These blocks appear to have two V-notches on the top face, which could indicate a mortise and tenon joint to create an interlocking concrete retainer wall. Looking around the site, it appears that the finished grade has been set, and there are no sharp changes of elevation that seem to warrant the use of a retainer wall. These specific blocks on site appear to be bin blocks, indicating they are for temporary use around the site only. These precast blocks are often made from leftover batches of concrete that the mixer returns, so permanent structures are not typically constructed out of these blocks. These blocks are equipped with a rebar hook at the top, as their 1,000+ pound weight can only be lifted by crane. Considering they are scattered around the site but within the same general area of one another, it is difficult to pinpoint what these 5 bin blocks may be used for. 

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At this time I cannot come anywhere close to a conclusion on what these blocks could be used for, but what I can say is that we are looking at something temporary. I doubt it would be a retainer wall since the finished grade has likely been set and there are no elevation changes on site that prompt the installation of a temporary/permanent retainer wall. These blocks could very well mean nothing, as you can't do too much with just 5 bin blocks, but they could also play a more significant role on site. The only block that seems to have a strategic and meaningful placement is Block 2 inside of the queue house parameter, but otherwise, the rest of the blocks look to be randomly scattered around the area. Other than that, I am not sure what these could be used for. If you have any ideas, please let me know below because these are definitely interesting.

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